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Way Rig Instructions
June 28, 2004 - Marion Reservoir -Went
trolling in mornings, and evenings in 15' to 20' deep water off
the points between marina cove and cottonwood. Also tried the
drop off out side the flats/buoy line. Caught wipers 10 keeper,
and over 30 through backs, And one 22" walleye. Only use
the 3 way rig twice because of getting snagged a lot. But almost
any new lure I put on started catching fish. It was a good time
with the wife and daughter fishing with me. Big Al.
June 26, 2004 - Cheney - Arrived
at 1:30 pm, I was a little skeptical about going today, Light
East Wind, and a steady barrometer Most of the time makes for
a pretty BAD day of fishing. I definately had considered staying
home. But then the wind started switching to the SE, and I figured
it wouldnt be long before the barrometer started moving, and
I was right! We fished for an hour before I caught my first fish,
a nice White Bass. I took my best friend Scott, and a 13 year
old kid with me. We started @ M&M, caught a White bass, then
over to Wichita, a couple nice Wipers there, then on out to the
Refuge where the action really started heating up! Some friends
were in 2 Other boats, and We all started catching very nice
Wipers and a few Stripers. There were times all 3 boats each
with 2 anglers each, WE ALL HAD FISH ON! 6 fish at a time! Several
times Scott and I each had 2 fish on each! It was Awesome! Justin
( the 13 year old,) ended up catching the biggest Wiper a nice
14 lb fish, and Scott caught 3 Nice Stripers from 10 to 15 lbs
each. I caught 3 Stripers about the same size. I honestly lost
count of all the Wipers we caught. It was a great day! Nice and
cool, cloudy, light winds WOW! I wish every day on the lake could
be so nice. We definately used up alot of 4" Pearl Sassy
Shads!! One large fish pulled the Treble Hook right off my #9
Risto Rap! and another Straighted a #4/0 Steel shank hook! Looking
forward to tomorrow! MIKE E.
June 24, 2004 - Stocking Question
- I'm wondering why the stocking dates at Urban Fishing
sites is updated post stocking..Its a great asset to those who
fish the neighborhood stocked lakes..Please tell us if this a
June 24, 2004 - Cheney - JUNE
23, 2004 WEDNESDAY. HAD TO HEAD OUT ONE MORE TIME BEFORE THE
BEAVER TRIP. COULD NOT PASS UP A FORECAST MADE FOR FISHING. AND
YES IS WAS A WONDERFUL DAY WEATHER WISE ON THE LAKE WEDNESDAY.
CALLED THREE FRIENDS TO GO WITH AND NO TAKERS. SO IT WAS JUST
ME AGAIN, (BOYS AT Q.S.R SUMMER CAMP). STARTED AT 7AM. I DID
A LOT OF MOVING AROUND ON THE LAKE TO FIND THEM. NONE AT M&M.
HANDY CAP FOUND 4 BIG WIPERS. GOT A CALL ON THE MARINE RADIO
FROM A FRIEND WAY UP NORTH CATCHING WIPERS. SO I HEADED THAT
WAY. LOCATION WAS 1 MILE SOUTH OF THE ISLAND. AND YES THAT'S
WERE I FOUND THEM. CAUGHT 10 MORE WIPERS. 6-8 LBS. FEW WHITE
BASS. HAD A GOOD DAY. THREW ALL BACK. YEP, MAC THAT WAS US. TRIED
TO GET THE WIFE TO GO THAT DAY SHE SAID NOPE. SINCE MAY 06 I'VE
LANDED 54 WIPER/STRIPERS COMBO. 6 HUGE WALLEYE. THE LAKE LOOKS
IN REAL GOOD SHAPE FOR SUMMER. 2' HIGH AND WATER IS CLEAR (CHENEY
STANDARDS) EVEN NORTH PART OF LAKE. MARK
NOTE: THE VERY BEST MEDICINE FOR ME TO TAKE WHEN I'M DOWN AND
OUT. TIRED OF WORKING. THE WORLDS COMING TO A END IS TO HEAD
OUT IN THE BOAT WITH FRIENDS OR BY MYSELF. WHAT A RELIEF. I LOVE
IT. (DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR?)
June 23, 2004 - Cheney - I
was out at Cheney the 19th with a buddy. We had an excellent
evening catching Wipers and Stripers using Mike E's 3 way rig.
At one time we doubled with two 15 lb'ers!
With all this Striper action at Cheney I must side with Mike
E. and ask the KDWP to reconsider their decision in not stocking
them. Lets face it, with the White Perch problem, Cheney is loosing
anglers attention and they are going elsewhere to fish. (OK isn't
very far away you know.) I used to go to Texoma and Beaver to
striper fish but would rather save fuel and stay here if it is
in my back yard! And you know what that means - Revenue that
stays in state!! Heck, my dad just drove up from Texas to fish
June 22, 2004 - Cheney - Last
Saturday June 19th was a bit chilly when we arrived at the lake.
Light rain was falling, temp was 65 deg air temp, and water was
a balmy 74deg. We started at M&M, with no luck, over to Refuge,
trolled up onto the hump, and Randys line started ripping off
his reel! Then, NOTHING! limp line. Immediately my line started
Ripping off my reel, and I pumped in the nice hefty 10 lb Wiper
attached to Randys Lure along with his 3 way swivel and Sassy
Shad he had just lost! Yup the fish broke him off, and swam straight
into my lures. What a team effort that was! I saved his lures
and his fish. Anyhow, we fished for a couple more hours didnt
catch anything. went up lake found lots of fish, but no takers.
Ended up back at M&M about Noon or so, and immediately caught
a nice little 3 lb Striper. The smalles Striper I have caught
this year! Randys buddy brought his boat along and was straight
south of us and we viewed him reeling in a rather hefty fish!
We went out a few minutes later and we were met with a huge smile
and a rather nice 19lb Striper. Mark was one happy guy! He nor
Randy had fished for Stripers on Cheney, and from that point
on, the Bite was ON! We caught numerous nice Wipers, along with
Randy a Very nice 17lb Striper. Everyone on the point were catching
fish! They seemed to be everywhere! I dont know how many Wipers
we caught, but it was quite a few. Mark made the comment, IM
RUINED! He fell in love with Cheney. Randy had a fantastic day
also, and Mark insisted this was the best day he had ever had
fishing!! He has been fishing since he was a kid, and now is
in his 40's. We all had a ball.
Monday, Chris ans I visited the lake around 6:45 pm. We went
out to the refuge and I immediately hooked up with 2 large fish.
The larger straightened out my swivel, and I caught a nice wiper
on the sassy shad. That evening we caught 3 large Stripers in
about 20 minutes that were from 17 to 20 lbs. 5 large White Bass,
and 5 large Wipers. 3 Others Broke my line, and the one straightened
out a swivel. What an evening that was! Stripers are Thriving
in Cheney, I noticed at the cleaning station, there were Striper
carcas's floating all over the place! Looking forward to Saturday!
June 21, 2004 - Catch and Release - Is
it just me or do some anglers not have a clue about releasing
larger fish. An 8 pound smallmouth and you ate it? What are you
thinking? Take a picture, measure it, at the very least do everything
within reason to keep it alive, weigh it on a certified scale,
release it, and have a replica made. Same goes for the 50+ flatheads
and 25+ catfish and other trophy fish. These are the fish that
maintain the quality fishing in KS now and if we keep culling
them fishing in KS will be poor at best. Eat smaller fish that
in all likelihood are much better to eat anyway. William Miller
June 20, 2004 - Cheney - I
am glad to see somebody was catching fish on Sunday. I took my
dad out, for fathers day, and we ended up catching approximately
fifteen fish. Two of the stripers were in the 18 or 19lb range.
The fish must have known it was a father's day present because
except for the big striper he caught everything else. Most of
these fish came from the west side over near the handicap jetty.
Now back to Sunday, I took my brother out and we couldn't by
a fish. I saw Mark, if that was him with the downriggers on his
boat, and his daughter catching fish but I couldn't get anything
to bite our lines. I would be curious to know his secret for
June 20, 2004 - Council Grove - The
big lake was flooded and too windy so we went to the city lake.
Worked the weeds and banks only 1 small bass. Worked crank baits
along the damn and whamo, 7lb. 25 in walleye. The weekend turned
out alright after so much rain. RICHB
June 20, 2004 - Cheney - HAD
NO INTENTIONS ON GOING OUT SUNDAY.(WEATHER) HAS ANYONE NOT HAD
ENOUGH RAIN? SHOWED UP AT 3:45PM. LAKE IS UP BUT STILL NOT MUDDY
SOUTH PART OF LAKE. REALLY A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON. LIGHT SOUTH
WIND SOME SUN SHINE. HAD MY LINE IN FOR ONLY 2-5 MINS. AND IN
FRONT OF M&M POINT LANDED A NICE 15 LB. STRIPER. THAT WAS
ALL. NOTHING MORE. MOVED TO WESTSIDE AND NOTHING AT HANDY CAP
JETTY. MOVED TO SAILBOAT COVE (AREA) AND THERE IS WERE THEY WERE.
10 MORE WIPERS/STRIPERS. ALL BIG 8 LB WIPERS AND TWO MORE 15
LB. STRIPERS. ONE 6 LB. WALLEYE. MY 9 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER REELED
IN FOUR. THEY WERE SOOOO BIG I HAD TO HELP HER BRING THEM IN.
WHAT A BLAST. MY DAUGHTERS LITTLE HANDS HURTING WITH PAIN. YOU
WONT HEAR FROM ME TILL JULY 06. ON VACATION AND HEADING TO BEAVER
LAKE FOR SOME HUGE STRIPERS. (IF IT DON'T RAIN). CAN'T WAIT.
TAKING THE HOLE FAMILY. GOOD LUCK TO ALL. MARK.
June 20, 2004
- Cheney Walleye- Oh they are
out there. although it will probably be tough until the white
perch is controlled. included is a picture of a young man i was
fishing with on friday 6/18 this guy is 26 inches long and weighed
6.75 pounds. caught h8im trolling infront of marina entrace as
we were about to call it a day. needless to say after that catch
we made one more pass to see if we could scare up momma or daddy
walleye. happy fishing everyone it's off to boy scout summer
camp this next week. so leave some for me when i get back.
June 19, 2004 - Cheney - On
June 19th Mike took me fishing at Cheney res. I have fished there
many times and would have to say this was the best trip there
I have ever had. We caught many NICE Wipers and one 17lb striper.
All the fish we caught were trolled using the three way method,
and by speed trolling. It was the first time I have ever speed
trolled, and I can assure you that this method works. Thanks
Mike E. for the memories I will keep from this trip for a long
time. Randy S.
June 18, 2004 - Cheney - I just
wanted to say, since the KDWP isn't going to stock striper's
in Cheney anymore, I wish you fish hogs would throw back them
10+lb stripers and wipers. A smaller fish is much better to eat
and these fish would eat a lot of pesky white perch, which would
benefit the reservoir. Alan
June 18, 2004 - Cheney - Cheney
on Friday the 18th. Evening. Trolled M&M humps for walleyes,
& strippers. Caught four eyes <21", and two small
wipers? Don't think it was bad fishing, considering the weather.
June 18, 2004 - Question on Cheney Walleye
- What is going on with the walleye at Cheney. I have
heard very few reports of anyone catching anything out there
all year, including the spawn periods. Sure you hear of a few
here and there but nothing like the action we have had before.
June 18, 2004 - Response to Bass
Stocking at El Dorado - In 2003, the KDWP stocked
a total of 644,735 largemouth bass fry and 85,257 fingerling
largemouth in to El Dorado Reservoir along with 28,710 smallmouth
bass fry. The largemouth were chemically marked with OTC so individuals
that recruit to the adult population can be identified. This
is useful as it provides a means by which the contribution of
the stocking can be followed. Samples were collected at the end
of May and results are not yet available.
In 2004, a total of 287, 277 largemouth bass fry and 89,231 smallmouth
bass fry have been stocked to date with more largemouth scheduled
to arrive in the next couple of weeks.
The purpose of these stockings is to take advantage of the available
habitat that is required by young black bass---AQUATIC VEGETATION!
A aquatic vegetation establishment project has been underway
for many years at El Dorado and the vegetation is now reaching
levels where it may be enough to greatly benefit stocked black
bass fry. Without the nursery habitat provided by the vegetation,
these stockings would have very little chance of surviving the
rigors of life in a Kansas reservoir.
So to answer your question in short, yes these stockings are
an attempt to increase black bass angling opportunities in El
Dorado Reservoir. It is still too early to know how effective
this will be and just like any other situation, there are no
silver bullets or magic potions in fish management!!
Craig M. Johnson
El Dorado District Fisheries Biologist
Kansas Department of Wildlife & Parks
June 17, 2004 - Answer to Boat Registration
- You will have to register the boat in your name.
You can probably keep the same numbers. Don't worry about a temporary
permit. Just go to a State Park office or Regional office and
you will walk out the door with your registration. Under 16 ft
costs $21. Over 16 ft costs $26. Gordon Schneider-KDWP
June 16, 2004 - Cheney - I left
work 6pm, and on the way home, noticed not much wind. Yeah, I
ended up at the lake @ 7:30 pm, and headed out to M&M. I
trolled for 15 min no luck.. so decided to go out to the refuge.
I was alone, and I love to zig zag troll when I am by myself.
You can turn sharp and turn completely around without worrying
about the other line of your parter! I was doint this last year
when I landed my 16 lb Wiper, and this time I landed a hefty
14 lb Wiper using my 3 way rig and the zig zag technique. I never
saw any schools of fish on the screen, just the usual humps they
like to lay by. I fished for about 5 min, and caught a nice White
Bass, and 10 minutes later nothing else. So, I started the zig
zagging, and WHAM! She ripped the line off my reel! I had to
follow her for a little while, keeping a tight line all the time.
Finally she came up to the surface, and I had to smile. What
a beautiful fish. I tried for 10 or 15 more minutes with no luck
so went back to M&M and started down my favorite hump, and
sure enough upon the other end, was a sow! She ripped line from
my reel, and i turned the boat and followed her also. I could
tell this was a larger fish, the way she kept going. I finally
landed and weighed her, a beautiful 17 lb Striper. I had had
enough, it was 8:45, and headed to the dock. 3 fish in an hour
and 15 minutes isnt alot, but they sure were worth every minute!
good luck! MIKE E.
June 16, 2004 - Question about Boat
Registration - Not exactly a fish question but important
non-the-less. Recently my grandfather past away. I purchased
his older boat from the estate. We have found the original title,
(Missouri), however, the boat had been registered in Kansas,
but cannot find the actual registration card or any paper work
from Kansas. It is placarded with KS #'s with a 2006 expiration.
What will I need to tranfer the boat into my name? Can I get
a temporary permit to use the boat until the matter is cleared?
If anyone has any information, I would greatly appreciate it.
I am an avid fisher with out a boat for the past 6yrs. I now
the advantages, and would love to get it in the water ASAP.
June 16, 2004 - Answer to Milford Certified
Scales - Any grocery store should have a certified
scale. My best guess would be either Junction City or Abilene.
14, 2004 - Milford Certified Scales? -
Do you know the nearest certified scales to Milford
State park main entrance?
My wife caught an 8lb Smallmouth (we think) out of Milford, We
stopped at Jim's gas station where he weighted it and told us
he wasn't sure it was a Smallmouth. A week later we stopped by
again and he was sure, But we ate it. Here is a couple pictures.
It's a hard luck story we would not like to repeat.
June 14, 2004 - Kansas River near
Topeka - FLAT HEAD FISHING GOOD WITH LOG LINES AND
LIMB LINES ON THE KANSAS RIVER WHILE THE RIVER RAISES IS THE
BEST TIME TO SET THEM JUNE THROUGH THE FIRST WEEK OF JULY IS
PRIME TIME, BEEN CATCHIN SOME 79 AND 58 POUND ERS.CATTIN WITH
ROD AND REEL IS GOOD TO WITH SKIP JACK HERRING A GOOD OILY CUT
BAIT. SEE YA CATDADDY
R R Shumway , Catdaddy's Catfishin Adventures , Catdaddy_1@msn.com
June 14, 2004 - Cheney - After
the storms subsided and the water started to receed, I called
my friend Chris and asked him if he wanted to fish. Luckily he
said sure, and he picked me up and headed for Cheney. You see,
the winds were still blowing a little too much for my boat, and
his deep lund is perfect for stormy seas. We started @ M&M
with no success, Wichita, the Refuge, notta.. The waves were
pounding us, so we decided to head west. I still have little
knowledge of the west side, except for the reports from Mark
and a few others who have had good luck there, so I went straight
out in front of sailboat cove, and almost immediately hooked
up. I landed the nice Striper, we didnt weigh it, but I guess
around 8 to 10 lbs. A nice male by any standards!!, I thought
cool! this must be the place. We trolled and trolled and trolled,
and nothing else bit but lots of trash. weeds, Plastic bags,
Sticks and weeds. what a haul we made!! haha.. finally ended
up in the corner of the dam, and right off a point in 14' the
screen was lit up with fish from top to bottom! We trolled through
the mass over and over, nothing! Chris decided it must be White
Perch, so we anchored, and sure enough caught the little needlers.
Yeah NEEDLERS! Those fins on those things are nothing but NEEDLES!
we caught them 2 at a time about 3 to 5" each very small.Fished
there for a few hours, then we were getting tired of it. We had
a curfew, to be back to town by 7pm, for Chris to go see a movie
with his wife, and about 6pm we were ready to go when I asked
Chris if he wanted to drift some of the baby perch down the west
side for Stripers. He readily agreed, and we put worms on again
lowered our hooks into the water, and wham! both of us caught
2 perch each about CLEANABLE SIZE! ??? I kid you not!! each and
every perch we caught from that moment were too big to drift
with and several were large perch! NO MORE LITTLE ONES! It was
plain WIERD!!! So... we started having fun catching a bunch of
those bigger perch and ended up missing Chris' curfew... I think
his wife was a little ticked! Sorry Melissa... anyhow, it was
fun on ultralite rigs.. Fish is fish after all and perch are
better than nothing, and can be great fun!
We cleaned a bucket full for them to eat, They say they taste
great (Maybe alot like chicken?) haha! See Ya,
June 14, 2004 - Smokey Hill Reservoir-
(6/12) Jim Harshfield and Grandson Tanner Townsend's
second trip to this beautiful fishing hole near Junction City.
Last year we caught two fish, a 52# and a 28#, this year we caught
this awsome 60# fish on a limb line baited with perch in about
three feet of water. The river was real low, and very muddy,
so we didn't exspect to catch much. But what a suprise when we
woke to a bunch of thrashing at about 4am Sat morning, one fish
was plenty. Tanner thinks he gave us good luck by picking the
right perch to put on the hook. I agree.Jim
June 14, 2004 - Cheney - WHAT
A CROWED AT THE LAKE. HUNDREDS OF JET SKIERS, BOATER, FISHERMAN.
I ARRIVED AT 3:30PM. ABOUT THE TIME THE WEATHER AROUND CHENEY
STARTED GETTING BAD. MARINE RADIO GOING OFF WITH THUNDERSTORMS,
TORNADO ABOUT EVERY 20 MIN. (NICE TO HAVE IN THE BOAT FOR WEATHER
COVERAGE). ME AND MY PARTNER RESCUED OUR FIRST PERSON EVER ON
THE LAKE. PONTOON BOAT WITH FOUR CHILDREN AGES 4 -6, WITH WHAT
APPEARED TO BE THERE GRANDMOTHER ON BOARD. THE CHILDREN'S MOTHER
SOMEHOW ENDED UP IN THE WATER. IT WAS WINDY AND THE PONTOON WAS
FLOATING AWAY FASTER THAN SHE COULD SWIM. GRANDMOTHER COULD NOT
START THE MOTOR. SOUND FAMILIAR? FOUR YEARS OR SO SAME THING
HAPPENED WITH A PONTOON BOAT AND A DROWNING OCCURRED. BOTH SWIMMER
AND GRANDMOTHER FRANTICLY SCREAMING AND WAVING THERE ARMS FOR
DESPERATE HELP. WE SEEN IT AND DROVE TO HER AND GOT HER IN THE
BOAT. EVERY THING OK AND WE WENT BACK FISHING. ENDED UP WITH
ONE 5 LB. WALLEYE. THREE BIG WIPERS. CAUGHT IN FRONT OF M &
M POINT. CLEAN ALL FISH. THE WIPERS HAD 5" WHITE PERCH IN
THERE BELLIES. AS MANY AS FOUR EACH. WHAT A BUNCH OF PIGS. AT
THAT RATE OF EATING WHO KNOWS HOW BIG THEY WILL GET. SO FAR ALL
THE FISH I HAVE CAUGHT THIS YEAR ARE KEEPERS. NOT ONE TOO SMALL
TO THROW BACK. IF THERE'S SMALL WIPERS IN THE LAKE THERE STAYING
OFF MY LINE. I STILL DON'T THINK I HAVE MIKE E. SPOT LOCATED
YET IN FRONT OF M & M. CAUGHT OUR FISH IN 12' OF WATER WAY
OUT IN FRONT OF M & M. MARK.
June 14, 2004 - Cheney, El Dorado &
A Note for Dominic - Last Sunday 6/8 fished with a
couple of boys from my scout troop. sat at red bluffs for a while
and one caught about a 2# catfish on stink bait. I had a big
bite on a dead shad (pre packaged from walmart) but, i missed
him. i didn't wait long enough. tried some trolling at refuge
pt nothing there. and then up to the island. caught a couple
of nice but sub legal wipers and returned them. it gets a little
frustrating to fish out there when someone catches something
and it's of good size and everyone else including their dog,
yes someone had a dog on their boat with them! (i can see ok
for joyriding & hunting but what if a tackle box got spilled
and a big fish was landed and the dog gets a hook impended in
his nose or paw, it'd kinda put a damper on your fishing trip)
moves into that space and tried a totally different technique
jigging vs. trolling. we then went over to graber's and nothing
there. so we called it a day. on wednesday I went with a new
friend to eldorado had some success with small 'eyes and my friend
nearly lost his pole on a bite but that was it.
finally a word for dominic. Make sure you know how to operate
all equipment on your boat before putting it on the lake. your
experience at kingman would've been so much better if you had
followed that simple rule. and the other rule to follow is never
ever loan out your tools. by the way happy fishing everyone.
June 12, 2004 - Kingman SFL - Well....
it seemed like today would be a good day for fishing. Clouds
were in.. just seemed nice. I also wanted to find out how well
I can manage the boat by myself.... I get the boat on the lake
with no problems. So far everything is going great. I start trolling
to some lily pads. I didn't notice too much, but it seemed that
I didn't have much trolling power... so sure enough my battery
dies on me. I can't figure out how to start the motor. I don't
want to spend enless minutes trying to figure it out when I probalby
just miss one little step. So I put the trolling motor on the
main battery... so far so good. Nice power and I get some trolling
done on this super windy day with the clouds vanishing... making
horrible fishing conditions.. sure enough my main battery dies.
And of course no way can I get to the ramp since it's up wind.
So I end up rowing and drifting to the other end of the lake.
I got it on some ground and walked all the way to the first ramp
to get my truck and I figured I will use that battery on the
boat to just troll to the second ramp. Sure enough I didn't have
my ratchet since my brother never returned it to my tool box.
So I could't get my battery out. So I did what I never wanted
to to do. I tried rowing a little bit, but had very little luck
at moving forward. I was thick in the lily pads since I figured
I can't float back much at all if I was in open water. Well I
end up on the shore and I tie a rope to my boat and I pulled
my boat all the way to the boat ramp. I had to move it past two
docks as well. Took over an hour to get to the ramp which was
three hundred feet away. So I got very little actual fishing
All in all I'm glad the problems happened when I was alone and
not with anyone else that had to be stuck with me. I didn't get
all ticked off or frustrated and I did get a nice work out.
So now the batteries are getting charged and I will make sure
they get charged the day before the boat hits the water.
Happy fishing... careful with the weather. Dominic
June 10, 2004 - Striper Response
- In response to the striper that was all spawned
out: a 27 lb striper might have 2 lbs of eggs in her. it is a
very big misconception that fish with eggs in them will weigh
a lot more. Although they look extremely larger they are often
June 8, 2004 - Butler SFL - Went
to Butler on Monday June 7th to do some fishing. I always fish
the back area of the lake. I just never have luck catching much
from shore on the main lake. I started fishing using my sinking
stick bait, but wasn't having much luck. Caught one tiny bass.
I then decided to switch to a shallow running crankbait. Still
wasn't have much luck until I found where the bass were holding.
All the bass were holding close to shore. My biggest one was
two pounds and fourteen ounces. Two other guys were leaving and
said they caught two bass about the same size with spinnerbaits
near the dam area. I decided to try and fish the shoreline that
wasn't as winblown. I caught one bass on the main lake in a cove,
but was pretty small. I got to the back area of the lake again
and was fishing very shallow water so I switched to a small spinnerbait
and had some success with that. Caught a few more with it. Saw
two guys fishing for crappie with their long poles. It was neat
to watch them pull out fish after fish. I went back to my main
spot and just wanted one more and I caught just one more nice
bass and I noticed in it's mouth some pinchers... it just ate
a crawdad and didn't have it swallowed completely. So I ended
up catching ten bass.
June 8, 2004 - Cheney -(JUNE
6 & 7) YES, STRIPERS ARE STILL THRIVING AT CHENEY. SUNDAY
WOKE UP NOT PLANNING ON GOING BUT LOOK OUTSIDE AT 5:30AM. AND
SAID I'M OUT OF HERE. WENT BY MYSELF AND ENDING UP WITH 15 STRIPERS.
SMALLEST 10 LBS. BIGGEST 14.9 LBS. THEY WERE LOCATED ON HUMPS
ON THE WESTSIDE OF THE LAKE. I USED DOWN RIGGING AND THE THREE
WAY SET UP. WHAT A DAY. (MONDAY) WAS DIFFERENT. COULD NOT FIND
ONE WIPER OR STRIPER. BUT DID CATCH 4 HUGE WALLEYE. SMALLEST
5 LBS. BIGGEST 6.8 LBS. NO SET PATTERN ON THE WALLEYE. ONE HERE,
ONE THERE. TOOK ME 4 HRS. TO GET ALL THE WALLEYE. ONCE AGAIN
THOSE STRIPERS WERE RIPPING LINE SUNDAY. ONLY CAUGHT ONE WIPER
THE TWO DAYS 7 LBS. WHAT A THRILL. MARK.
June 8, 2004 - Trolling Answer -
In answer to your question about trolling speed, I
agree with what Mark said last week, all the instructions and
answers to all of your questions about catching large Wipers
and Stripers on Cheney are in the history pages on this website.
I have told you all over and over how its done, shared my favorite
spots... etc etc etc... READ the History pages... Read the 3
way rig instructions that is posted on the front page. Its all
spelled out for anyone who wants to know anything about how to
catch Large fish and massive quantities of fish with the 3 way
swivel rig. Go back to 2002, and begin reading.. take notes..
Try it You will Definately Like It! MIKE E.
June 7, 2004 - Trolling Question
- I'm just getting into trolling and wondering if
there was an average speed that you troll at. I'm going to try
this three way rig on your page.
June 7, 2004 - Scott State Lake -
Headed out to Scott State Lake next weekend. Any advice
on where to fish for walleye? Will probably be shore fishing
mostly. Any favorite bait or tackle for this lake? Thanks Ray
June 6, 2004 - Cheney - (June 5-6) Saturday arrived at cheney around
10am, fishing was slow, but did allright. Ended up catching several
Nice Wipers and Stripers from 15" to 25 lbs. Trolled up
by my favorite point and landed 2 Stripers 14 & 19 lbs. Since
Last Thursday, We have caught 29 Stripers and all of them were
unspawned Males fat with milk and 1 Spawned out female. She weighed
27 lbs all spawned out.. just think a few weeks ago.... What
a beautiful fish. Today was a little slower, but still had a
great time. Now of course the wind will blow again! So till next
weekend, Good Luck!!
June 6, 2004 - El Dorado Question
I noticed that in 2003 El Dorado got stocked with a bunch of
bass fry and fingerlings. I never hear or read reports of El
Dorado for bass. So is this large stocking in attempts to get
El Dorado better for bass fishing? Any info would be appreciated.
5, 2004 - Cheney - (June 4) Trolling with a crawdad color No.
5 shad rap (Yes, I ran out of fire tigers), caught a fish almost
every pass for over an hour. Location was just 50 to 100 yds
south of the southernmost buoy on Walleye Island (a.k.a. The
Rockpile), which is one mile south of Fish Cove and marked by
a group of four buoys. The depth drops from 4' to 10' there,
and the fish were stacked in there. Some were 10" white
bass, some 15" white bass, several 16" wipers, and
a few nasty white perch. Gordon.
June 4, 2004 - Cheney - FINALLY!!!!
I finally managed to get to Cheney for a couple of hours of fishing!
It is only the 2nd time this year that I managed to get there,
and with NO WIND! What a perfect day. I sat at work and decided
I had to go to the doctor and left at 3pm, went got my allergy
shot, and made it to the lake by 5:30pm.
A very light breeze blew from the north east, and I decided
to skip my first favorite spot, and went to my 2nd favorite spot.
I trolled for an hour, with absolutely Nothing but a snag. Lost
another Rapala. Went on over to my 3rd favorite spot, and caught
a nice pound and a half White Bass, a little while later hung
into a much larger fish, but managed to lose him before he got
to the boat. about 6:30 headed back to my first favorite spot
that I went right on by at first, and hung into a very Nice Striper.
I of course was using my 3 way method, with the sassy shad and
the #9 Rapala Risto Rap. When I got him to the boat, I discovered
I had actually had 2 fish, and one broke off the Rapala. This
was a very hefty 24 lb Striper. My parter decided he better put
his line in the water, ( he had been sitting in discust not catching
anything before, and he was ready to go home!) and we started
over the SPOT again, this time we both Scored. I had to follow
our fish with the boat!! We landed a 27 lb and a 26 lber this
time. His once again being the larger. Again I got my bearings,
and decided to go over the hump again, this time nothing. Stripers
spook really easy.. So.. we trolled away for 30 minutes and decided
to go to the spot one more time, and once again My line was RIPPING!!
I followed the fish again, and this one was 22lbs. We had our
limit. He decided to quit fishing, but I just couldnt resist
one more pass, and landed another 22 lb fish. I hated throwing
him back, but oh well. We decided to quit, and go home. I can
finally provide some great tasting fish for my folks a fish fry.
IT was great to be back to the lake. Stripers are still thriving
in Cheney, I was really shocked I didnt catch any Wipers, but
there is always this weekend! ( so long as the wind isnt blowing
50 miles an hour!) See ya, MIKE E.
June 4, 2004 - Fishing for wipers
with liver? - I still don't understand why you don't
make it possible for people to post a comment or report without
having to send an email to you. This is the worst system of any
website I have ever been on, so with that said please post this
question to your soundoff page.
I have heard some people catching wipers on liver. How much
liver do you place on your hook and what size hook do you use.
Do you fish it on the bottom or drifting or what? Any tips for
catching wipers with liver is appreciated.
June 2, 2004 - El Dorado - I
got out to El Dorado this past Monday and Tuesday. Got on the
water about 7:30am both days. Spend most of my time drifting
points. On Monday I got 2 walleye that measured. 1 at 23 inches
and 1 at 18. Also caught a bunch of whites, and short walleye.
On Tuesday my son Sam went with me and we ended up with 2 keepers.
Of course dads was only 19 inches and Sam's was 22. We got most
of the walleye on a floating jig and night crawler. We also caught
lots of what I think were small wipers. They were about 1 pound
but they sure hit hard. From what I understand they just stocked
them in there last year. Has anyone heard about walleye at Cheney?
Randy and Sam.
June 2, 2004 - Marion- I went
fishing last night below the dam at Marion and caught 1 18 inch
Walleye and 4 little Walleye, 1 drum and one White Bass. I was
using a 1/8 oz jig head, a night crawler and a slip bobber fished
4 foot down. Todd Marion,Ks
June 1, 2004 - Kingman- I
managed to get to Kingman Sunday to get some fishing in. I didn't
take out the boat since I just wanted to do some simple wading.
The lily pads are coming in. About twice as many should be appearing.
You want to catch bass at Kingman you have to not be afraid of
the lily pads. I see fisherman fishing open water and think that
is silly. Not many fish are going to just sit in open cover.
It was very windy Sunday so my lure I wanted to use wasn't going
to work. I was trying out my strike king zero baits, but that
wind just kept them from sinking. The lure that worked well for
me happened to be the one box of lures I left home... The spinnerbait.
But luckily my brother had his tackle in my vehicle as well.
So I used a spinnerbait that had a 4.5 gold willow blade. It
was fun since people saw me catch fish. I pulled in one very
nice one and then three smaller ones. With missing some little
ones. I heard one report of a catfish being caught, but there
were tons of catfish.
The bass spot that seems to work for me is the end of the lake
that you get to from the river access road. The whole back area
where past the fishing pier is pretty shallow throughout and
usually holds some bass at all times as well.
For catfish I have seen more cats caught on the other side of
the lake off the two far piers by the feeders. Some nice cats
have been pulled there.
That end of the lake seems to be a little more muddy.
June 1, 2004 - Wolf Creek- Well
I usually stay away from the lake on holiday weekends.(although
the prospect of a 180# jet skier on a 1 oz spook does sound tempting)
Anyway went to wolf creek for the first time this year and came
away with a nice smile and a bad case of fish thumb. Caught some
very nice smallies on roadrunner worm combos drifting the islands.
Then we went to the standing timber in some of the coves and
spent about a hour catching some of the nicest crappie I'd ever
seen.(Many over 14") Never could find the legal size walleye,
but decided to try the old 3 way rig on the way in just for fun.
And fun it was. Caught several doubles and at one time my parter
and I had 3 on at the same time. Nothing over 10# but fun enough
to add a extra hour to our departure time. Anyway it's a long
drive,But well worth it if you don't know how to fillet jet skiers.(
I hear slow roasting is the way to go ,but I've personally never
tried it) Anyway hope everyone had a good weekend. Big T
June 1, 2004 - Hudson- hey the
blues are on the run I was fishing on hudson and caught 25 blue
cats from 2 lbs to 15 lbs on rod and reel useing live med. gold
fish for bait
June 1, 2004 - Cheney - Yesterday
evening and this morning the wipers were very agreeable on the
rock pile marked by four buoys one mile south of Fish Cove. There
were two sizes, about 8-9 inches and 15-16 inches, not legal
but loads of fun. They will hit marabou jigs, but they love chartreuse
sassy shads. They are very shallow, 1 or 2 feet, so watch your
lower units on the rocks.
May 31, 2004 - Kanopolis - Fished
Kanopolis this morning from 6:00 AM until 12:30 PM. Caught 10
walleye/saugeye around 12" long and two around 15"
long. Wind this weekend must of scared most away from the lake
as it was not very busy. Caught the fish on jig and crawler,
Lindy spinner rig with minnow and trolling with Rapala crank
baits. Also tried Berkley GULP night crawler plastic worm and
caught two on it. Caught all the fish on the west flats. Salina
May 31, 2004 - El Dorado - Fished
ElDorado Lake 5-28-04 through 5-31-04 caught twenty fish fifteen
flatheads five channelcat.Biggest Flatheads 23.5,16.5,15,11lbs
the other eleven flats weighed from 3lbs to 8lb.The five Channelcats
were 2 to 3lb range.All caught on trotlines.Bait was mostley
blackperch and a few goldfish.Some of these fish were females
and they look to be ready.Did catch a male that looked to have
been fanning the nest.The Babb brothers Jimmy and Herb
May 30, 2004 - Cheney - Went
with my son instead of house chores because it's his 16th birthday
on the 31st and after that he and i won't get a chance to fish
together until he finishes his job at the boy scout summer camp
@ QSR. It was truely a memorable day on the lake for a late start
(8:30am) and ending @ noon. He pulled in a 23.5" striper
that weighed in @ 6 pounds. We did release him so he's still
out there We were trolling fire tiger #5 jointed shad raps out
at the island. He had several more hits that he missed but, he
had a great time. in response to the fisherman looking for where
the fish are at cheney and how to get to them, if you hadn't
waited till the day before your trip on your inquiry i'd been
able to get you some info on that. another good way to learn
a lake is to hire a guide. i did that before i bought my boat
2 years ago and i have not regretted it. send me your email and
i'll fill you in on all the action. i am also looking for a fishing
partner that can get away to the lake weekday mornings for 7
weeks. (i hate fishing alone) give me a holler @ email@example.com.
happy fishing everyone ron
May 29, 2004 - Marion - Went
fishing at Marion last night and caught some really nice wiper
in the 4 to 5 pounds. We caught 8 wipers and 5 white bass and
1 17inch Walleye. We was using a yellow floating jig head and
a nightcrawler and also a 1/8 oz white jig head and a white and
green twister tail.
May 28, 2004
- Cheney - Caught this 21"
wiper and some nice white bass early this AM trolling fire tiger
shad rap and orange hot-n-tot, just east of the stumps in Graber's
Cove where it drops from 8 ft. to 12 ft.
May 27, 2004 - Response to Question
about Cheney - TECHNIQUES AT CHENEY. I'VE GIVEN SOME
TECHNIQUES I USE ON THIS SITE. I FIND IT RAPACIOUS TO CONTINUE
TO ADD MY SECRETS. LOOK ON THIS SITE FROM LAST YEAR DURING THE
SUMMER FOR SOME EXCELLENT SECRETS. I STAY OFF THE LAKE DURING
HOLIDAYS DO TO THE NUMBER OF JET SKIERS IN MY HOT SPOTS. THERE
ARE SOME EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITIES TO FISH FOR THESE BIG FISH AT
CHENEY. HOPE YOU FIND THEM AND REPORT BACK TO ALL OF US. JUST
A REMINDER. FOR MY BOAT JUNE, JULY, AUGUST IS THE "BEST
TIME" OF THE SEASON TO CATCH THESE MONSTERS. THERE SCHOOLING/FEEDING
LIKE MAD. GOOD LUCK.
May 27, 2004 - Question about Cheney
- I am going to be spending Memorial Weekend at Cheney
Lake. Could anyone give me any information on what areas to fish
and with what techniques? This is my second year with a boat
and I would love to catch some walleye, wipers, stipers or anything
as far as that goes. Thanks for any helpful advice!
May 26, 2004 - Republican River and
Weather conditions @ Salina, KS @ 0928 hrs CDT
Temp: 61 degrees
Dewpoint: 49 degrees
Barometric Pressure: 29.94
Winds: NNE 13 MPH w/ gusts to 21 MPH
River was chocolate mousse but did manage to catch a drum. Left
due to the nice wind conditions & went to the spillway looking
catfish based on KWDP report that it was fair for them.
Caught 5 channel catfish with the largest pushing 10 inches.
tight lines & sharp hooks
May 26, 2004 - Kanopolis - Fished
Kanopolis Sunday May 23, Caught 2# catfish on a hot-n-tot silver,
6 small walleye in the 10" to 12" range and 1 6 lb
10 oz walleye trolling a rapala shad rap in about 10' of water.
All fish were caught trolling. Tried jig and crawler with no
success on the flats and at the dam. Salina Angler
May 23, 2004 - Marion - Yesterday
I went fishing at Marion in the WIND! We caught 13 wipers, the
biggest was 5lbs. We caught them on a Shad Rap and a blue and
silver hot'n'Tot. We was trolling along the road bed.
Last night I went fly fishing down below the dam at Marion. I
was using a 5 weight fly rod, 4lb tippet and a 1/16th oz white
crappie jig. I caught 15 small white bass.
May 20, 2004 - Marion - Last
night I went fishing below the dam at Marion and caught 20 walleye
and 6 whites and 7 small drum. The Walleye was really small,
(10 to 14 inches). I caught them on a 1/16 oz jig head with a
night crawler fished on the bottom. Todd Marion Kansas
May 20, 2004 - Republican River Btwn
Wakefield & Clay Center -
Weather Conditions 1400 hrs CDT @ Salina, KS:
Partly Cloudy (in contrast to Partly Sunny)
Temp: 84 degrees
Dewpoint: 70 degrees
Barometric Pressure: 29.83 & falling
Wind: South @ 16 MPH
River peaked @ 900 cubic feet per second (CFS) @ 0600 hrs according
5,00060 . River had been decreasing in flow rate since it rose
on 12 May and had gotten back down to almost 200 CFS before today.
Lots of stuff floating downstream to include a basketball and
some female's tennis shoes aside from the normal tree branches
other assorted garbage.
Managed to catch 1 channel catfish on dip bait & my 1st blue
nightcrawlers. Two guys fishing upstream of me caught 2 nice
catfish (3 to 4 lbs each) & a 2 to 3 lb blue catfish using
and some type of Berkley nuggets prepared bait.
sharp hooks & tight lines
May 19, 2004 - Question for Anglers
- What are the best sizes or colors of jigs and spoons
for trolling for wipers! Todd
May 18, 2004
- Cheney - Catching white perch
for bait for wipers, I stumbled on to these white bass in very
shallow water where the wind was blowing in on the Rock Pile
(marked by buoys). Did the same thing yesterday on Wichita Point
and Refuge Point. It was very early morning and they hit white
or yellow marabou jigs and chartreuse sassy shads. Could have
probably caught several white bass if I had stayed there. Be
careful of the numerous small wipers also hitting in the same
May 18, 2004 - Question for Fellow
Anglers - I have fished Cowley State fishing lake
for years for largemouth and done well. Now my aim is to see
what type of channel cat population there is here. Anybody have
any tips on location or baits that have worked for them at Cowley?
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May 18, 2004 - Butler State Lake -We
went to Butler State lake on Sunday the 16th. We fished back
in the creek and caught about 15 crappie all in the 8'' range.
They were all caught on minnows.
May 18, 2004 - Question - I
would like to know if anyone knows whats biting at cheney and
eldorado the kdwp never gets updated.
May 16, 2004 - Winfield City Lake -
Fished Winfield city lake for Walleye,Wiper, White
bass or Crappie but was unsuccessful on the main lake due to
high-water and cold front. Was able to get a Walleye and several
Crappie below the spill way.
May 16, 2004 - Marion - Went
fiishing at Marion Friday night and Saturday evening. I caught
20 white bass and 2 big drum on the dam,
I was using a 1/8 oz silver Cast Master and a 4 inch white and
green twister tail with a 1/8 oz white jig head. The whites was
really small about 10 iches. Saturday evening went out to try
to catch some Walleye but the wind came up. We started at the
swim beach by the dam and we picked up a drum, so we went to
Marion Cove and we drifted from there to Cottonwood Point and
we caught 1 14 inch Walleye and 5 small Whites. We was using
a floating jig head and a night crawler, a orange and yellow
worm spinner and a 4 inch green and red twister tail.
The first Sunday in June the Marion Lake Assosiation is having
a Kids fishing tournament at Marion Resivour. The cost is $20.00,
2 kids per boat with an Adult. It any kind of fish. You can also
get info from Canada Bait Shop.
Todd, Marion Kansas
May 11, 2004 - Answer to Question
- I haven't been to Cowley so I couldn't help. I have
fished Butler many times. I assume you are fishing for bass.
Now that the water is warmer you can stay put in one area of
the lake through the whole summer. And that is in the back of
the lake mainly past the first walk way pier. In here it's not
too deep and is full of weeds. So the choice will be more weedless
type lures. I have used some swim baits though when you figure
out the areas that the weeds don't grow all the way up. Other
than that you will want to stick with three lure types. Plastics,
spinnerbaits, or topwater like a frog or mouse. All of these
have produced for me or seen others catch fish with them. For
color choice I stick with neutral colors like watermelon. That
color is one of the most used colors now and days even by the
Finally, all my trips but one I have fished from shore and I
can catch twenty bass or more in one little area. If you have
a boat you can try on the main body of water, but I have no advice
for you there.
May 11, 2004 - Question - What's
the choice of color and lure for bass at Cowley SFL and Butler
May 11, 2004 - Marion - Went
wade fishing at Marion dam again Mon. night. The wipers aren't
up there as thick as they were, but there were still enough to
have plenty of fun. Couldn't buy a hit on jigs this time though,
switched to crankbaits just before dark and started catching
them. Started out with a shallow running Shad Rap, then switched
to a floating Rapala # 7 silver and black about 10:00. Caught
9 wipers,about 1.5# ea., 8 white bass,only 4 keepers, 1 largemouth
about 1.5#, and three walleye, 16", 17.5", and 19".
I had to crank pretty fast to get most of them to hit, even the
walleye hit when I was cranking about twice as fast as you normally
would. Fished the north end of the dam, but not all the way to
the swim beach, inside the bouys though. Not as exciting as last
week, but it wasn't bad. RC
May 11, 2004 - Cheney - WINDY.WINDY.WINDY.
COULD ONLY FISH ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DAM AND THAT WAS EVEN
WAY TOO WINDY. COULD NOT VENTURE OUT ANYWHERE ELSE. ONE 5.7 LB.
WALLEYE, A DRUM. THAT'S IT. PM. FISHING. TROLLING. WATER TEMP.
NOTE: WATER LINE AT FISH CLEANING STATION IS OUT OF SERVICE,
BROKEN PLASTIC (EXPOSED) PIPE UNDER DOCK, (WALKWAY). WAS TOLD
STATE PARK EMPLOYEE'S WILL WORK ON IT IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND
GET IT RUNNING.
May 11, 2004 - Private ponds - Fished
my inlaws 3 acre pond on sunday 5/09 caught a bunch of bass using
Chompers skirted grub(black w/ blue flake ) texas rigged 3/16oz
weight 2/0 gamagatzu ewg hook. Anyhow fished the same rig monday
at an apartment pond and caught about a dozen bass, all about
2lbs and under.First time ive used these chompers but im really
impressed with them so far, a lot of ways ya can rig them. bought
them at Zeiners, little expensive, little over 5 bucks per 10
but hey theyve been catchin fish. Thanks "Zeiners"
for all the info and help and to bring products locally no one
else has. Shawn
May 11, 2004 - Glen Elder - May
7-8 Friend and I fished Glen Elder for walleye and caught some
nice stringers. On Friday we caught 8 walleye ranging from 26-17
inches. Most fish were in the 22-23 inch range. Best fishing
was early morning and after the wind came up in the late afternoon.
Caught the fish in 6 feet of water at the top of the dropoff
using jig/nightcrawler. Saturday we caught 9 fish in the same
size range at the same location. Caught majority of the fish
right before sundown. Ended up with 4 fish over 25 inches for
the weekend. CS
May 10, 2004 - Marion - Went
fishing Saturday morning at Marion, we drifted a night crawler
around goose refuge and caught 5 wipers, 1 drum and 2 really
nice white Bass. The wipers was busting shad in about 2 foot
Went wade fishing at Marion yesterday evening and caught 1 wiper
by the swim beach on a Shad Rad. I think the wipers had moved
off the dam. The boat fisherman was really doing good on Saturday
Morning between Cottonwood and Marion Cove. Last week a 9 pound
Walleye was caught at Marion. The guy was trolling a Walleye
May 10, 2004 - Kanopolis - Fished
just south of the tower by the dam at Kanopolis on Sat. Fished
from 4:00 to 6:00 pm and caught 7 Crappie (2 were to small but
kept 5),1 white and 1 Walleye 18" The Crappie were in shallow
and the Walleye a little further out. Best color was Chartreuse
twister tail body with a pink or orange head. Or a chartreuse
May 8, 2004 - Lovewell - we
had good fishing at the inlet at lovewell 5/7/ 2004 the crappie
were hiting hard andy kissinger
May 7, 2004 - Marion - For
you shore fishermen like myself, who don't have a boat to chase
after them and would like to see more fishing reports that don't
require a boat, the wipers are up on the face of the damn at
Marion Res. I've caught over 80 combined total for the last 5
evenings, mostly 1.25# - 2# but some 2.5 and 3#. I've seen and
heard of others catching some 5# plus and one 12#. Alot of guys
are using a road runner with orange head and green twister tail
but I've been using a white road runner head with a 3" shad
colored sassy shad body and catching twice as many or more than
most. Have also picked up a few walleye using the same bait but
most of them are undersize. ( 16 - 17 ") I did get one nice
walleye Tues. night though, 27.5", 6.25#.
White twister tails have been working some and shad colored crank
baits have done pretty well at times. They have been up there
for two weeks now, so don't know how much longer they'll be there.
I wouldn't put it off too long if your interested.
For those of you who don't already know, and suprisingly there
are quite a few who don't know, wipers are very good eating,
but you need to cut the dark meat out before you cook them.
There is no size limit at Marion but the statewide creel limit
of two (2) does apply.
Good luck ! Have fun ! RC
May 6, 2004 - Cheney - "WIPERS"
FISHING WAS EXCELLENT THURS. AFTERNOON. STARTED AT 4:45PM. FISHED
TILL 8PM. WIND WAS HIGH. MADE ONE PASS THRU M & M AND SAID
THE HEAK WITH THIS SIDE OF THE LAKE. DID PICK UP A 2 LB. STRIPER.
WEST SIDE WAS WINDY BUT NOT AS BAD AS THE NORTHEAST AND EASTSIDE.
ME AND MY PARTNER CAME UP WITH 9 NICE SIZED WIPERS DOWN RIGGING
AND TROLLING. ALL WIPERS WERE FAT AND IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. ALL
BUT ONE WERE MALES. THE FEMALE WAS LOADED WITH EGGS. DID CLEAN
OUR LIMIT. HAD TO CONTEND WITH 12 JET SKIERS ALL EVENING. THE
WIPERS WERE 6 TO 8 LBS. LOCATION WAS THE SOUTHWEST END OF THE
DAM OUT A WAYS TO THE NORTH ON THE HUMPS. OUR BAITS WERE BIG
ENOUGH TO KEEP THE WHITE PERCH OFF. WATER TEMP. 61 AT DAM. 64
FURTHER NORTH. THAT G.P.S. WAS A MUST LAST EVENING. THE HUMPS
ARE SMALL AND WAY OUT IN THE LAKE. THANKS MIKE FOR THE EL DORADO
REPORT. MIGHT HEAD OUT THIS SAT. AND TRY FOR THE WALLEYE. MARK.
May 5, 2004 - Farm Ponds - The
techniques that have been catching me some nice fish are using
soft plastics. I have been using stick baits. I don't like senko's
much because of their cost and just how easy they tear. I have
used up most of my four packs of stike king zero 3x baits. They
really are durable. The do eventually get stretched a little
and start getting worn down where you rig the hook weedless...
but they do last longer than one bass strike or snag. They are
great since they sink really well and you don't need any weights.
I fished them on weeds letting them sink in. And the other farm
pond I would cast out let sink for over five seconds and give
it a pull.
The comment about the crappie. I think you could take his word
for the weight of them. The record for black and white crappie
are over four pounds. Looking at the fishing forecast you will
see a few lakes that the biologists pulled out over two pound
A few weeks ago Fall River was great for Crappie. My dad got
a report from some guys that fished there and they caught over
fifty crappie from shore.
Happy fishing all... hope the weather cools down for us and doesn't
get super hot like it's doing.
May 5, 2004 - Republican River btwn Wakefield
and Clay Center -Hot & windy with blue-bird sky.
Used 1/8th oz chartruese spinner baits, 1/4 oz chartruese and
white headed roadrunner jigs w/ chartruese curly tails, chartruese
twin tail grubs, & yellow twin tail grub to catch 10 white
bass between .75 & 2 lbs. Watched several small males chasing
larger fish along the bank, so suspect some of the females are
making their presence known. Also noted gar moving upstream.
tight lines & sharp fillet knives walt
May 5, 2004 - El Dorado Walleye -Hi
all, been a pretty slow spring for me in the fishing department
this year. Ive had my boat out 2 times. First was during a night
session on Cheney after Walleye, didnt catch any... and then
Eldorado the weekend of April 25th. El Dorado Lake is Still supporting
a very nice Walleye Population! I caught several Nice fish from
6" to 22", Mostly around the 171/2" mark, but
still many many fish. I use the Anchor up and drop a jig tipped
w/nightcrawler technique. I ended up catching 3 keepers all from
19 to 22", and saw several more keepers caught from other
boats. I fished May 1st in the tournament, and we only caught
2 keepers, I had 2 others to the surface, one of which was a
very hefty Walleye that I believe would have been a money fish,
and i pulled the hook out of its mouth while trying to net it...
The other simply came up looked at me turned and busted my line.
YES I WAS PISSED!!! Dumb luck I guess.. just wasnt meant for
me to win any money this year. The largest Walleye caught was
just over 9 lbs, and there were numerous 5 pounders taken. We
all had a ball, and I look forward to next year. Walleye are
alive and Well in the murky waters of El Dorado! Take plenty
of NightCrawlers, cause they really do like to eat them right
off your jig. It seems the west side off of points produced the
most fishermen last weekend, till the wind picked up more, then
they all seemed to move over to the cemetery side.. I counted
around 20 or so boats there... ( cowards afraid of a little 25
mph wind! haha) Good luck!, MIKE E.
May 5, 2004 - Question about Crappie Caught
at Butler -Just wondering if you actually weighed
the crappie that you caught at Butler watershed because a two
pound crappie is pretty hard to come by and since you caught
two of them i was just wandering if you just thought that they
weighed two pounds or if you actually weighed them. Just curious.
May 4, 2004 - Watershed Butler County -
Went last night for a quick trip around the watershed.
Was trying to catch bass but, there seems to be alot of them
on there beds and I couldn't get them to bite anything. They
were really spooky to. You could see them up shallow but there
was no wind and if you even made a ripple with the boat they
were gone. I decided to get my ultralights out and try for some
crappie. Good thing I did cause they were everywhere. Managed
to catch around 50 or so in a pretty short amount of time. Maybe
15 were around 10 inches and I had a couple that were over 2lbs.
Ended up catching 10 small bass with the crappie jigs as well.
May 3, 2004 - Cheney - May 1,
Cheney. Made plans to fish Saturday morning despite the weather.
Arrived around 7:30 and thought maybe the lake was closed because
we were the only ones around. Of course it was cold and windy
and it had rained all night. We put in at Dee's and proceeded
across the cove to find some cover
from the north wind. We decided to troll out from the Red Bluffs
Fatherhood immediately caught a 5.5 lbs 25 inch Walleye. About
broke in his virgin rod!
Thinking this was a sign of things to come, we repeated the
times with no luck. Around 10 a.m. we decided to drift the points
night crawlers on worm walkers. Tried the usual points, Wichita,
etc with only the constant bait and re-bait aggravation of the
white perch. The wind continued to pick up so we tried trolling
Dee's cove near the Christmas Tree area. Picked up some very
Bass trolling spoons . Two weighing 2.5lbs each.
Should have some pictures tomorrow.
Shawn the Fisherman
April 28, 2004 - El Dorado - The
weather was cool, the wind was a gusty 10-25 mph. The sky was
very overcast and raining at times. Perfect weather for walleye
fishing,... right?....Wrong!!! WE caught not one fish. We had
2 bites on jig and worm but produced no fish, oh im sorry, I
caught a big stick fish with worm in the am! We trolled, tried
three ways jig, fished shallow, fished deep! Nada, zip, zilch.I
saw about three boats catch one fish a piece, real small. We
are fishing the walleye tournament this weekend there and the
weather got even colder! I think if we catch one fish that keeps,
it could be the winner! Good Luck to all, see you again when
the weather warms and the fish are biting! imao(I missed another
April 28, 2004 - Marion
- Went fishing at marion last night along the dam, didn't catch
anything the north wind was strong, so I went below the dam and
caught 5 walleye between 12 to 14 inches, a small white bass,
a 5 pound drum and 3 channel cat, the biggest one was 7 pounds.
I caught them on a night crawler. Todd
2004 - Cheney - Caught this
17 lb. striper trolling a 7 cm fire tiger Shad Rap in about 9
ft. depth just east of the stumps in Graber's Cove about 10 AM.
Wish I could say it was skill, but this was the only fish I caught
all morning. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good!
April 27, 2004 - Republican River,
Clay County btwn Clay Center and Wakefield-
Conditions @ Salina @ 0908 hrs CDT:
Barometric Pressure: 30.18 & dropping
Winds: South @ 3 MPH (later exceeded 20 MPH by a wide margin
10 white bass on 1/4 oz & 1/8 oz chartreuse jig & 1/8
buzz-bait - all males weighting between . 5 lb & 1.5 lb (hooked
5 but somehow they managed to escape the cooler :-)
1 CHANNEL CAT on blood dip bait (only weighted 1 lb 15 oz)
but it was a
Tight lines, sharp filet knifes & hooks
April 27, 2004 - Hillsdale Lake - FISHED
HILLSDALE ON APRIL 27 FROM ABOUT 4PM TO DARK.CAUGHT AROUND 30
CRAPPIE AND A COUPLE OF WHITE BASS.ONLY 4 CRAPPIE MADE THE 10
INCH LENGTH LIMIT.CAUGHT ALL THE FISH ON A DROP OFF
IN 25 FT OF WATER ABOUT 12 FT DOWN.COULDN'T FIND ANY CRAPPIE
SHALLOW.MINNOWS IS THE ONLY THING THEY WOULD IT.WATER SURFACE
TEMP 63 DEGREES.MOST THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO SAID THAT THEY HAVEN'T
SPAWNED YET BUT THERE WAS ONE GUY SAID IT WAS ALREADY OVER.ALOT
OF THE FISH WE CAUGHT STILL
HAD EGGS.SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE CRAPPIE SPAWN
AT HILLSDALE? WAYNE
April 26, 2004 - Cheney and Marion County
- I'm still the greatest fisherman that ever lived,
last fall I caught a seagull and a lost lure. this year a dead
fish at cheney and this last monday at marion caught a Drum (so
i can beat it) and a coors beer can (so i can kick it). returned
all to respective lakes except lure & beer can. on another
note. Monday 4/26 am on marion. caught a couple of real nice
white bass and the drum drifting night crawlers north to south
along north bank of lake by cottonwood cove. would've tried more
but ran out of time and the winds got too heavy
April 25, 2004 - Clay Center - Republican
river - Broughton Bridge Area (4/22/04) FISHED
FROM 2 PM TO 6 PM USING A #5 WEIGHT FLY ROD AND A 6 LB. LEADER
WEARING CHEST WADERS ,STANDING IN 3 TO 4 FT. WE CAST INTO
THE DEEPER SIDE OF THE RIVER AND MEND THE LINE WITH CURENT.CAUGHT
5 WIPERS ALL ON A BLACK AND RED HAIRED WOOLY FLY WITH
A #8 HOOK ,
THE WIPERS ALL WEIGHED AT THE 7 POUND MARK, WHAT A BLAST.
THE WHITE BASS ARE ALSO GOING FAIR ON MEPPS AND ROOSTER
TAILS AND JIGS.
IF YOU FLY FISH GET THEIR BEFOR THE NEXT RAIN FALL AND
TIGHT LINE CHUCK
April 25, 2004 - Glen Elder and Wilson
- Fish glen elder this moring April 25 Fish the causeway
for two hours with two fish for three people. NOT GOOD. Went
to Wilson at noon the same day and had two crappie and one large
mouth..This was 9 hr of fishing for three people.plus 220 mile
not a good day will go Monday and let you know how we did...
PS use night crawlers for walleye with no luck
April 24, 2004 - Harvey County West
- Was fishing off the floating dock at Harvey County
West Park Across from the swimming pond on Saturday April 24
with my son Ryan who is 5 and a couple of his friends ,Dan &
Dylan .The weather was cool the sky partly sunny and the wind
changed directions about every 30 min.
I did not think it would be a good day for fishing but the kids
wanted to go and I was really surprised at the outcome.
I caught 4 nice Channel Cat using liver and Dan caught 2.
but the real surprise was the fun the kids were having .They
were using the smallest hooks I had in the tackle box and worms
and catching perch like crazy. I liked pulling in the catfish
but it was as much fun to see the kids catching them perch They
would no more then get there line in and they would have another
the action was so intense they did not get bored It was great
fun.We lost track after 35 or so on the count and I told the
boys to toss them back on the other side of the dock as I thought
they had to be catching the same ones but never found one they
had hooked twice. It was a great day
April 22, 2004 - Answer to Kingman SFL
Question - Please inform the poster that his boat
will have no problem. Just a few weeks ago a guy had a pontoon
boat out on the lake, which he launched with his semi. The whole
lake stays pretty consistent at four feet deep. By the rock fishing
piers some spots drop to about five feet. Only place to be cautious
at is trying to access the south end of the lake that has the
two islands. Stay to the left and you will be okay. It gets very
very shallow if you aren't far enough left. So shallow that I
had to jump out of my little john boat and drag it fifteen feet
to get back into some deeper water. The lake is a bit high too
so that will help. Dominic
April 22, 2004 - Kingman SFL Question
- Anybody know how big of boat you can get on kingman
lake? I've heard its shallow. Would a 19ft deep v aluminum boat
with a trolling motor be alright?
20, 2004 - Burns Area Creek - I
caught these nice large mouth bass just north of Burns Kansas
on 4-4-2004. The six pounder I caught in a creek on a ultra lite
pole and the 5.25 pounder I caught in a pond that afternoon on
a top water mouse. What a day. I have fished for 32 years and
had never caught a bass over 4 pounds and on that day I caught
2 lunkers. I couldn't wipe off the huge grin on my face all day.
Shane Eustice El Dorado
April 19, 2004 - Cheney - Went
out to the dam last friday late afternoon and early evening on
the 16th. Caught quite a few white perch on the flyrod. Nothing
over 6 inches though. The bite seemed to quit once the sun was
down though. Caught a 4
inch wiper too. Be careful that you don't confuse fingerling
wipers for white perch. Look for faint stripes and body type.
There were some guys out there cast netting and keeping everything
that resembled a white perch. Would've been easier to explain
to them to check their nets for small wiper and whites had i
been able to speak they're language. Not sure how the Department
desires for fisherman to dispose of undersized white perch, but
i just slammed then down on the concrete real hard and kicked
them back in the water for a larger fish to suck up. Make sure
to bring your kids and cane poles out to help thin these fish
April 16, 2004 - Republican River
between Wakefield and Clay Center -
13th caught 12 white bass (.75 - 1.5 lb - males) using
1/4 oz roadrunner jig heads w/ 2 inch chartreuse w/ flakes sassy
1/8 oz chartreuse maribo jig;
1/4 oz roadrunner jig heads w/1 inch yellow curly tail
15th caught 1 walleye (4 lb) & 2 white bass (.5 to .75
lb - males) all
on yellow curly tail w/ 1/4 oz roadrunner. Extremely tough conditions
as only saw 6 fish caught all day (90 year old gentleman caught
walleye and one of his companions caught another same white bass
another guy caught 1 little white bass.)
Bambi did not fair well in the meeting w/ my 83 station wagon
home from river on 15th. From what I could see of Bambi, 95%
was not saveable (topped hill and wham! -- felt like I hit concrete
block -- hair stuck between tire & rim as well as blood soaked
drove over body after striking it w/ bumper & passenger headlight
assembly.) Less than $40.00 to fix not counting what it will
have headlights aimed correctly.
tight lines & sharp hooks
April 15, 2004 - Cheney - APRIL
15, 2004. FISHED 4:30PM. TO 7:45PM. LIGHT WINDS VERY GOOD CONDITIONS.
TROLLED M&M, FACE OF DAM, WESTSIDE. LOTS OF FISH ON FISH
FINDER. CAME UP WITH ONE DRUM. LITERALLY MILLIONS OF SMALL FISH
ON THE FISH FINDER ON THE FACE OF DAM IN 15 - 20' OF WATER. MORE
THAN LIKELY WHITE PERCH. WHAT A HORRIFIC PROBLEM THESE PERCH
HAVE DONE SO FAR ON THE LAKE. THESE GAS PRICES ARE ALSO HORRIFIC.
$30.00 TO FILL THE BOAT. ANOTHER $30.00 TO PUT A 1/2 TANK OF
GAS IN THE TRUCK. WATER TEMP. 55 AT DAM. 63 AT M&M. GOOD
LUCK THIS WEEKEND IF YOU ARE HEADING OUT. MARK.
15, 2004 - Winfield City Lake - Here's
a fish story for ya. Fished Winfield City Lake Wednesday afternoon.
Waded the coves flipping a rapala floating minnow, catching the
occasional white bass. About 6 I was almost ready to go home
and I decided to try one point one last time. The minute the
fish hit I knew it was a flathead. Heavy, nearly impossible to
move, and slow steady drag rolling off my reel. The next 30 minutes
were probably the most fun I've had in 40 years of fishing. I
was using only a 4 foot ugly stick with 6 pound test, so all
I could do when he turned to swim was hold on and pray he didn't
take it to the knot. After half hour of back and forth, I finally
drug him up to the bank, and as I reached to get the lure out
it fell. Was hanging by a thread. One more turn of the head he
was gone. Brought him home and weighed him: 52 pounds. Gave him
to a friend who said he thought he got nearly 30 pounds of steak
off the fish. Still can't find any crappie here in Winfield but
the wipers and white bass are hitting. I caught an 8.4 wiper
the day before Easter, if you recall it was cold, drizzly and
windy that day. Those are the days I seem to do the best. As
i type this I'm listening to 20 mph winds out my window, which
tells me I shouldn't be here, I should be fishing! Randy
April 13, 2004 - Question on White
Perch at Cheney - Hey Anglers!
I was hoping to go fly fishing for white perch out at Cheney
friday and was wondering if anyone could reccomend an area that
might hold a
decent amount of white perch near shore. I've heard that the
east side of
the dam and the river are holding quite a few these days. Was
hoping to try
to catch them on streamers in fairly open areas so i'm not getting
up on the back casts. Thanks for the advice. andrew
April 13, 2004 - Coffey Co. - Watched
the weather for Monday and decided it would be best to head east.
Heard reports that Coffey Co. was really hot so I checked the
local conditions at Burlington and seen the wind was 5-10 mph
for at least an hour, so I thought it would be safe to venture
east for the 2 hour drive. Arrived at the lake around 1:00, and
after seeing no trailers at the ramp, I knew I was in trouble.
Looked at the water and didn't even see a whitecap, but I knew
they had the lake shut down. Went in the office to verify my
worst fears, and yes, to them, it was way too windy.
All I could do is look at them and know they obviously have never
stepped foot in a boat. All I could remember about the lake is
that they have two time periods for which they impose wind restrictions.
From Oct. 15 to Apr. 15 differs from Apr. 15 to Oct. 15 due to
water temps. I looked at their wind meter and for nearly two
hours, the wind speed was well below the limit, so here I am
wondering why in the hell I am not out on the lake catching fish
after fish. But they told me it was to their individual discretion
whether to allow anyone on the lake, period! One guy told me
that is was way too rough to have a boat on the lake, so be happy
and either go to Melvern or fish from shore. It was hard to understand
his reasoning, adding to the fact that the wind was out of the
east! So being upset about traveling 2 hours with high expectations
and not being able to fish like I would, I told him to buy his
own boat and venture out there and explain to me why it is too
rough to fish! Then I graciously went down to the dock area and
decided to fish and wait for dead calm conditions. I noticed
the guy who would not let me go was done with his shift and left.
Minutes later, the next guy in line came down and told me to
get a pager and go out and fish. With about 2 hours to fish,
I figured I could at least catch a few. Made it out towards the
dam, and caught 10 walleye from 16-20 inches, 1 15" crappie,
1 nice blue cat, and a white. Fish were biting really well with
water temps close to 58. Went to check in and thanked to man
for letting me venture out over the 5-6" waves. He told
me it would be a very good idea to call ahead next time. He said
regardless of weather conditions, each person in charge of the
check-in station has different views on if the lake is fishable
or not. So the main point of this article is for those who have
fished Coffey Co. before, the rules have apparently changed.
It seemed before they used to go strictly on wind speed and direction,
but that is not the case anymore. So for future reference to
everyone, please call their office before you leave to avoid
the problems I ran in to. Lucky for me, I still caught what I
was after, but who knows how many more I would have caught given
a couple more hours. Stauf
April 11, 2004 - Clinton - We
went fishing at Clinton Saturday (4/10) evening and caught 6
walleye in the spillway. The total weight was about 28#. Caught
them on Road Runners. Dave Costello
April 11, 2004 - Pratt County - I
went fishing today (April 10, 2004) at Pratt County Lake. Even
though it was a cold out and it occasionally sprinkled, I decided
that I still wanted to go fishing. So, I got there and walked
out onto the land mass that goes all the way out into the middle
of the lake and I fished for two and a half hours on the south
side. I ended up catching three largemouth bass and four green
sunfish. The bass were between 14 and 17 inches. That was the
best bass fishing that I have done at Pratt County Lake. Usually,
at Pratt I only catch catfish and green sunfish and maybe one
bass. So, for me it was a good day. Jeremy
April 10, 2004 - Marion - Well
my buddy and I played a little afternoon hooky Wednesday and
slipped up to Marion for a little walleye fishing. No walleyes
on the flats but did manage to catch 5 or 6 wipers and whites
on jigs and road runners. Couple of nice ones. Anyway, wish I
had more to report but beats getting skunked. Till next time.
April 8, 2004 - Watershed in Butler County
- 4/7/04 watershed butler county
Went out on the evening of the 7th with my father in law for
a quick trip for bass. My father in law caught 2 small bass on
a white zoom fluke. I caught 13 bass on a bitsy bug. I finally
caught my first really nice bass of the year. She weighted in
at 5.2 and was caught in shallow water and full of eggs. Won't
be long and they will be on the beds.
April 8, 2004 - Cheney - Besides
Jesus that would be me. Here's why. this last sunday My Son,
a buddy from work and Myself went to try and get some walleyes
at cheney. as luck would have the wind changed saturday night
so fishing wasn't all the whooppee. My son caught a 20 inch wiper
south of the island. we were trolling. my buddy caught a white
perch (trolling) I also caught a white perch trolling. The real
feat of the day was when i reeled in a dead fish. I don't know
too many fisherman that can catch dead fish. we had been trying
to drift but, the wind didn't co operate and when i reeled in
my plastic worn lo & behold a dead white perch was hooked
throught the lips as if he had actually bit it. he was bloated
and decaying, but, yet he had enough strength to eat on. happy
fishing everyone. ron
April 6, 2004 - Kingman SFL -
Fished this lake today in hopes to catch a fish. It looks like
the bite is ready to go. Vegetation is starting to grow. I had
my waders on and started my day with a storm two inch shad. Well
found out that was a good choice. Missed one nice bass from the
bait.. got spit out. Next I found a crappie patch and caught
a few crappie there that weren't that small either. Then I caught
my first northern pike, which was about 20 inches. I saw the
parks guy roaming about so I knew I shouldn't travel too far
because he was going to eventually get to my side of the lake.
He told me that the color of choice for bass is red. I switched
to a red senko. And I had a good hit from a bass. I kept on fishing
and caught another pike on the senko. It started to rain and
I didn't come as prepared as I usually do.. my windbreaker became
too wet so I sat in my car for a while. The rain calmed down
and I went back out... Two other guys were there fishing worms
none of us were having luck. I think the bass bite changed so
I changed lures. I went to a shallow diver crankbait in crawfish
pattern. Finally caught another bass. The wind vanished and the
lake became very very calm. I tried a buzzbait since I kept on
seeing bass jumping. But I think my buzzbait couldn't go slow
enough. I was wanting to try a popper or something similar, but
I decided that I should call it a day. The weather is hitting
prime fishing weather for fish as well as yourself with being
April 6, 2004 - Derby Area - fished
the Derby area small lakes and caught a few stocked catfish on
worms and berkley catfish bait. seems they are hitting pretty
good and should get better. peace!
April 3, 2004 - Question on striper
fishing from Arizona - Hello maybe you are your readers
can help fishing for stiper and getting plenty of small ones
but what what about the larger ones. see them on the electronic
just cant get the bite. been using anchovie on trbble hook. and
sassy shad trolling .need help thanks Tony.. If you have
some hints, email Kansas
Angler Online and we will forward to him in addition to posting
on this site.
3, 2004 - Wilson - Jack Hoskinson Madd Jack Striper Guide - I haven't posted
a report for some time as I had been waiting to catch some bigger
fish. We didn't catch allot today but did catch this 27 # striper
fishing live bait in shallow water in the upper end of Wilson.
The last few days I had been pulling a few stripers from this
same area and had a client loose another big fish a couple days
ago. All the fish I have been catching are in 6 feet of water
or less. So sharpen your hooks, change your line the big boys
are on the move, Good Luck, Madd Jack
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